ruiner

ruiner

you had all of them on your side, didn't you?
you believe in all your lies, didn't you?
the ruiner's got a lot to prove he's got nothing to lose and now he made you believe
the ruiner's your only friend well he's the living end to the cattle he deceives
the raping of the innocent you know the ruiner ruins everything he sees
now the only pure thing left in my fucking world is wearing your disease
how did you get so big?
how did you get so strong?
how did you get so hard?
how did you get so long?
you had to give them all a sign, didn't you?
you had to covet what was mine, didn't you?
the ruiner's a collector he's an infector serving his shit to his flies
maybe there will come a day when those that you keep blind will suddenly realize
maybe it's a part of me you took to a place i hoped it would never go
and maybe that fucked me up so much more than you'll ever know
how did you get so big?
how did you get so strong?
how did you get so hard?
how did you get so long?
what you gave to me
my perfect ring of scars
you know i can see what you really are
you didn't hurt me nothing can hurt me
you didn't hurt me nothing can stop me now

i heard the most amazing interpretation of this one as someone describing being molested as a child. i don't interpret it that way myself, but it was amazing how this person made it fit. it's possible. go re-read the lyrics. all that notwithstanding, i think of it more as realizing someone that the world looks up to is a sham and a fraud. someone who "decieves" the "cattle" who can't think for themselves. like looking at a figure of authority and wanting to scream out that they are corrupt but knowing no one will listen. could be a politician, a famous person, the media... maybe even God. anyone putting on a front and decieving people, then using them for his or her own ends. "you know i can see what you really are", and i'm disgusted.
-alexa
ruiner is about someone or something that can control and direct a group of people, which eventually leads them into there demise. The mindless cattle that they are follow this deciever and believe in his ways. The ruiner is only out for himself and does not care about what he does. By not conforming you see what he really is and you hate him for what he has done. But some how he got to you and made you impure. So now that he has you , you don't care anymore, about anything. But since you are filled with apathy you in a way become the ruiner.
-Jarrod
i think that ruiner is talking about satan. i realized this once after my friend sent me a letter trying to get me out of satanism... i was really depressed and i might have been mutalating myself. but i was listening to ruiner and it just clicked in my head. it's talking about how satan makes people believe in his lies ...how he makes them do his work on earth and bring others in. it says. "he has nothing to lose" because satan doesn't. he only has your soul to gain. raping of the innocent refers to how satan can corrupt the purest of things and turn them into a tool for his using.in the chorus "how did you get so big, how did you ger so stong. how did you get so hard, how did you get so long" it's asking how satan got to become so powerful and overtake a large portion of america... and how hard it's gotten to overcome his power... and how long it takes. " you had to give them a sign" is talking about the mark of the beast that all of satan's victims covet. and the second verse is talking about his realization of the truth and how maybe some day others can realize it too. the perfect ring of scars is the part of him that will always be hurt due to the torture satan's grip put on his life.and the last sentence is saying that he satan can't hurt him anymore and he can't stop him from living his life from how he wants to life it.well... that's my opinion.
-jennifer
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